Curse

Borealis · Jul 05, 2005, 11:02 PM // 23:02

So I just did 2 different farm runs with my monk, one in talus chute on the trolls, now.......when you drop 15 lvl24 trolls you'd expect to get SOMETHING out of it right????

WRONG!!!

Know what I got, 2 white crappy raven staffs....wanna know the last time I was in talus chute? Last week!

I also went to riverside to do a farm run on the tengus, 12 of them too, don't remember what level, guess what I got, one, 1 a single blue armor....out of a dozen??? Not even a caromi scalp?

Anet....please explain?

I completely agree with miyamoto, I'm pushing 2 millionXP between 4 characters, I've done all there is to do, explored almost every part of the world except deep deep into the underworld so I farm for fun (spare me the dribble on whether its right or wrong) and no matter what I do, how I do it, or where I do it drops are garbage.

Don't nerf it......fix it! Make it so I don't need to farm to buy the max dmg fellblade or whatnot for weeks on end.

Dumachum · Jul 05, 2005, 11:05 PM // 23:05

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Originally Posted by Lasareth

I wouldn't put it past Anet to have coded item drops differently for different serial keys, to promote trade or engaging in other nonfarming activities. After all, it seems that the problems are consistent for one group, but the exact opposite is consistent for another, while some are in the middle.

</conspiracytheory>

Im actually getting pretty close to believing this. Inspired by the post on the "Gryphon Run" I went back and logged on my dust collecting warrior and recreated a few runs in a few different accessible places. In 30 minutes I recieved 3 GOLD items, 5 PURPLE items, and a Black Dye.

Now in the last 2-3 weeks playing my Ranger I did not recieve ONE SINGLE GOLD WEAPON and only a couple of purples playing through the game completely legit with no effort made to any kind of farming.

This is distressing and it makes you wonder if there is a drop bug of some kind or certain characters have a innate drop % attached to them to promote trading or something like stated above.

It's baffling the hell out of me because it is completely illogical. My Ranger gets drops like he has been farming nonstop rarely recieving even light blue items and nothing but rods and other crap yet my warrior was recieving all kinds of stuff even after racking up dozens of fast kills.

WTF is up with this?

Izzy Izumi · Jul 05, 2005, 11:12 PM // 23:12

My Ranger rarely gets anything either, then again, farming is a bit harder with a Ranger too.

The Destroyer · Jul 05, 2005, 11:23 PM // 23:23

Hmmm I have the same experience my warrior gets drops really good drops all the time no matter how much time he spends in the same place. My other chars get crap. I thought it was becuase the warrior still had a few incomplete active quests but so does my ele and he gets crap.

Phades · Jul 05, 2005, 11:32 PM // 23:32

Whenever i use my warrior i always end up getting bows and staves as drops or necromancer runes. That is when i actually get drops to happen. I commonly get more collector items than even gold drops usually. I have nearly more unlocked/salvaged bowstrings than i do all melee weapons combined. Generally i end up just selling it to a vender, because i honestly had no use for poisioner's bowstring, sundering bowstring, bowgrip of enchanting, or defense and have no desire to stand around and try to be a merchant. I had a rather large collection of enchanter's staff wrappings and fortitude, but i ended up giving those away to guildmates. Its kind of sad actualy, the only weapon rune ive unlocked is major hammer mastery, i havent even found a minor absorbtion yet. Conversly though, im only missing a superior death and curses out of necromancer runes... My first gold rune drop was a superior soul reaping, talk about let downs.

But lately, i havent really been getting anything worthwhile. Quite commonly getting blue, purple, and sometimes gold drops with nothing on it. This is basically caused me to stop trying to get the drops anymore and tried out the different pvp venues more. However, the more i did pvp, the more i realized how much the better upgrades were and im left in a state of apathy as to if i should keep trying or just do something else for ~3 months until everything gets sorted out.

On a sidenote though, my friend who primirally played a monk seemed to be having a bad day if he managed not to get at least 3 rune drops in an area solo farming... He has since moved on from GW though, for the time being as he is rather frustrated with the game.

generik · Jul 05, 2005, 11:37 PM // 23:37

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Originally Posted by Aniewiel

The drops are there, they're just harder to get. As someone said in another post (Don't Take It Out on Honest Players), maybe less frequent uber-drops will make them more appreciated. IMHO the drops have been too good and too easy to get. This way a rare truly -is- a rare and not just another-neato-thing-I-found-and-will-sell-for-an-outrageous-price.

The prices for uber rares and uniques will go through the roof with their increasing scarcity. That should please those who want all the gold in the world.

I, for one anyhow, would be MUCH more willing to pay through the nose for something that I knew for a fact was ULTRA rare.

But unfortunately the players who have exploited the system earlier has already amassed such a vast amount of wealth and control so much of the economy... that we just can't keep up anymore.

For one thing:
1) Gold drops are rare
2) GOOD gold drops are RARER still!

I really hope ANet would tweak their item randomizing code a little (or whatever.. I presume item stats are randomly generated) so that rare items at least have some stats worthy of the "rare" qualifier.

Like the other time.. "Ooooo!!! Rare staff!" *picks it up and IDs it*

+2 to energy?! That's it?

Heck, even my collector staff does a lot better, and it is merely a blue item!

Aniewiel · Jul 05, 2005, 11:40 PM // 23:40

Very true, Generik. I stand corrected since those who have already (are already) exploiting the drops by selling at outrageous prices already have inventories stuffed with items, it really wouldn't do much for the economy.

I also agree with the WTF on the things that I -have- found. I just did a Chute run through those thousands of trolls and giants near Droknar's and got....2 plain white staves and about 500gp. That's just not right since I'm a lowly 20 playing with henchies and these guys are 24s!

Kha · Jul 05, 2005, 11:42 PM // 23:42

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Originally Posted by Miyamoto Tzu

Two days ago I found a Purple Max Dmg Holy Rod!! I was doing a skill capture run with my W/Mo in Mineral Springs...this is the first Holy Rod I have found that has not been White or Blue. I was very excited...I finally thought I had found a good Holy Rod for my Monk to use...THEN I IDENTIFIED IT!!

It was a Purple Max Dmg Holy Rod...that was it...no mods...nothing at all to justify the different color....it's just a common piece of crap in a purple wrapper.

This must be a conspiracy against monks and their items. I found two purple Holy Rods today. Both already IDed. I'm never going to find a new weapon for my monk...

Lasher Dragon · Jul 05, 2005, 11:45 PM // 23:45

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Originally Posted by Kha

This must be a conspiracy against monks and their items. I found two purple Holy Rods today. Both already IDed. I'm never going to find a new weapon for my monk...

Collector's items work for me.

Itbegins · Jul 05, 2005, 11:49 PM // 23:49

for entering a certain mission over and over or same area over and over brings up suspected farming and such cutting your number of drops when killing things you gotta switch it up go to 3 differnt places or brg someone with you.

KaPe · Jul 05, 2005, 11:55 PM // 23:55

You complain too much. Really. I've seen good stuff drop, I've gotten good stuff. But I do not expect to find gold max damage weapon for my class *and* with good mods on every mission. Still, I got a new one to replace one from collector. It's nowhere near as bad as you make it sound. Your expectations are too high. I mean, just reading first post is enough "I didn't get drop from *every* monster I killed, the horror, the horror".

Aniewiel · Jul 06, 2005, 12:01 AM // 00:01

While I don't expect an uberdrop or even a 'normal' drop from every monster, it would be nice to find some nice stuff occasionally.

That the drop rate for decent...not UBER, just better-than-average...seems to have dropped off dramatically is interesting and a bit disturbing.

That said, I agree with the earlier poster who said that whatever AN does to 'punish' exploiters is A-OK in my book. Besides, it forces me to know my character and apply skill to my play. Since I don't have the best of the best stuff, I have to actually think whilst I play.

Kaylynn Of Ascalon · Jul 06, 2005, 12:12 AM // 00:12

all I want is to be rewarded for my time spent playing. I will never play GvG or PVP. I bought this game for PvE only. so far I have to admit this is the best game I have ever played. no game in the history of "me" has kept me so happy that I would play 300+ hours on in only a couple of months. when i was a kid and played D&D I used to love going through an adventure and when i was lucky enough to make it through, i would be rewarded greatly.

I just want to better my character with out having to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars. through adventure I should be able to be rewarded fairly. I don't need a perfect rare gold drop all the time, but for christ's sake give me SOME kind of reward.

Dumachum · Jul 06, 2005, 01:06 AM // 01:06

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Originally Posted by Itbegins

for entering a certain mission over and over or same area over and over brings up suspected farming and such cutting your number of drops when killing things you gotta switch it up go to 3 differnt places or brg someone with you.

I noticed this with my warrior after 3 or 4 runs I started getting less and less drops. But my Ranger is getting drops this infrequently ALL THE TIME no matter which mission or zone I go to.

I killed over 1 dozen minotaurs and they all dropped something for my warrior 3 runs in a row but when I bring on my Ranger and kill anything with poison and bleeding I'm lucky if 1 in 4 mobs drops something.

Echo Eternal · Jul 06, 2005, 01:15 AM // 01:15

100% agree with Kaylynn.

PVE'rs typically play MMOs for three reasons, all equally important:
1. the community
2. the fun of exploring new content
3. the excitement of obtaining new loot (and/or the coolest loot)

The third factor is incredibly important, especially to maintain longevity. I have only played GWs casually but have one character at the Ring of Fire in the best gear she can wear, wielding some of the best weapons she can wield. Given I haven't found a great raport with the community (in my opinion it just isn't as colorful or fun as other MMO communities, no offense to all the folks on this board - who are amongst the few who actually DO lend a sense of community), the only reason I'm still playing is that (a) I haven't beaten the final mission and (b) I'm not 100% certain I have the absolute BEST weapon. I'll beat the final mission within 2 weeks time, even playing casually. At that point the only reason I will keep playing this game is for loot.

Maybe I'm unusual, but I don't think so. Anet needs to realize that for serious (or casual!) PVE'rs, we will continue playing your game even after we've "beaten" the content solely for the loot factor. GW has the saddest loot system I've ever seen in a MMO.

Phades · Jul 06, 2005, 01:26 AM // 01:26

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Originally Posted by Echo Eternal

Maybe I'm unusual, but I don't think so. Anet needs to realize that for serious (or casual!) PVE'rs, we will continue playing your game even after we've "beaten" the content solely for the loot factor. GW has the saddest loot system I've ever seen in a MMO.

What has been the best loot system you have seen so far and why was it better? I have some preferences towards some that ive seen, but opinions vary.

Loviatar · Jul 06, 2005, 01:31 AM // 01:31

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Originally Posted by Echo Eternal

GW has the saddest loot system I've ever seen in a MMO.

that would be true if GW was (or was advertised) as an MMO

but is not and is not so advertised

nowhere on the box or ads is it claimed to be a loot game

Kaylynn Of Ascalon · Jul 06, 2005, 03:41 AM // 03:41

I don't see loot on any other MMO game boxes either. SWG does not mention "loot" anywhere...but we get it if we play. we are rewarded.

GW stopped rewarding me some time ago.

Paladin_Adoni · Jul 06, 2005, 08:09 AM // 08:09

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Originally Posted by KaPe

It's nowhere near as bad as you make it sound. Your expectations are too high. I mean, just reading first post is enough "I didn't get drop from *every* monster I killed, the horror, the horror".

you know, I dont think expecting to get some type of drop (say 10g at least) from a creature (especially those higher than level 18) is putting expectations too high at all. again, for the THIRD TIME. I am not talking about get that uber l33t godly max felldlade from every missions/run im talking about going to an area you have not been to in a long time, only to get half the creatures drop NOTHING. N-O-T-H-I-N-G (there I spelt it so perhaps you will SEE it) at all.

as MANY have said here, its all about rewards for spending time playing the game.

I, like others, am totally for the PvE side of game. and what was a fun and rewarding game when I baught it has become a waste of time really.

I guess Anet knows that despite the fact that they F*cked the PvE side, GW is still far better than other online games mainly due to no fee. so alot of us will keep coming back *HOPING* they have fixed the issues, only to see a lean towards PvP.

I mean sure, they add quests and change names for PvE, but if your level 20 PvE'er experience is not really that big of a deal.

how about fixing the stuff WE PvE'ers are complaining about.

Hysteria · Jul 06, 2005, 08:20 AM // 08:20

Ive ran across a few mobs that dont drop anything but it is usually the first mob I hit. After that things are pretty normal. I even go through the same areas a few times in a row and have yet to see any dramatic change in drops. Look me up in game and I can show you what I mean, my in game name is the same as here.